Almost nobody has a simple relationship with their mother. How much more complicated, then, if your mother suffers from mental illness.

In this episode, psychotherapist Linda Appleman Shapiro talks about Four Rooms, Upstairs, the memoir she wrote about growing up in the 1940s and 1950s with an immigrant mother who suffered from depression -- and about her mother's love that helps sustain Shapiro to this very day. BOOK AUDIBLE AUDIO